tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post60144998128704212..comments2024-02-11T08:39:14.292-06:00Comments on Baby Toolkit: Camp Baby Questions Answered: Well, Sort Of...adriennehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11068165000960928380noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-13824492500122631572008-04-13T19:21:00.000-05:002008-04-13T19:21:00.000-05:00What a great post! I too was surprised that they ...What a great post! I too was surprised that they weren't so open about creating a totally fragrance free product. <BR/><BR/>I had a great time at the event and enjoyed meeting you (although briefly). Adding your blog to my bookmarks so I'll continue to check it out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-20249395577455916232008-04-13T14:18:00.000-05:002008-04-13T14:18:00.000-05:00Excellent Post. I also was at Camp Baby and I thin...Excellent Post. I also was at Camp Baby and I think you perfectly articulate J&J's response to our questions - their inherent trust in their products vs. our concerns about ingredients and desire for more information and transparency so we can best make our own decisions. Thank you! And it was great meeting you too! Colleen :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-60466783277549076212008-04-11T16:30:00.000-05:002008-04-11T16:30:00.000-05:00I really appreciate both the very detailed post as...I really appreciate both the very detailed post as well as your tenacity in trying to get the good folks at J&J to listen. It seems amazing that they cannot comprehend why we don't want scent and other nasty things in the products we use on our babies - or perhaps they can't take the scent out because it is covering up some horrible smell from the other ingredients. <BR/><BR/>I'm kind of surprised that they weren't a little more open-minded if they truly set up Camp Baby to listen. If, on the other hand they set it up to pretend to listen while instead attempting to brainwash all in attendance, then it makes more sense. <BR/><BR/>In any case, thanks for trying! I hope it made some impact.R...https://www.blogger.com/profile/15532391623453389637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-23262425898765802612008-04-09T19:12:00.000-05:002008-04-09T19:12:00.000-05:00Popped over from Izzymom - such a thoughtful, smar...Popped over from Izzymom - such a thoughtful, smart post. Thanks for speaking up. I'm actually surprised that there isn't already an organics line or at least a fragrance free line already in some form of development. More than surprised...I'm shocked. It's where the market seems to be going. They'd do well to consider it strongly. <BR/><BR/>I think babies smell delish as they are.Mom101https://www.blogger.com/profile/15468524489744839899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-11880138505371851192008-04-09T12:13:00.000-05:002008-04-09T12:13:00.000-05:00This is a great post, thanks.I haven't searched th...This is a great post, thanks.<BR/>I haven't searched through your back posts, but wanted to make sure folks know about the "Skin Deep" cosmetics databases available at the Environmental Working Group website: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/browse.php?maincat=babycare<BR/>Their rankings aren't always intuitive, but I like that I can look up any baby product and get a better sense of whether it's worrisome. We switched sunblocks because of it. Also, we got a few refillable foaming pump bottles and now load up our (phthalate free) baby soap in it, 1/3 soap to 2/3 water. Works like a charm. Here's the one we have: http://purecastilesoap.com/accessories.aspxNancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15722786728491107925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-36106332765785607412008-04-08T19:35:00.000-05:002008-04-08T19:35:00.000-05:00I'm glad you raised those issues with the execs, e...I'm glad you raised those issues with the execs, even if you didn't get the answers you wanted. And, wow, 50+ bloggers? I didn't realize Camp Baby was going to be so big.Jennette Fuldahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472979135701418121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-66444265455997856032008-04-08T15:39:00.000-05:002008-04-08T15:39:00.000-05:00You can interrupt my conversations in progress any...You can interrupt my conversations in progress any time. :) I'm so glad I got to meet you and want to let you know that dinner was about the most hilarious conversation I've had in a long time.<BR/><BR/>Now, after having thought about all of this, how did you feel about the <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/washington/06patch.html?em&ex=1207627200&en=d1fc4e4153f0ab30&ei=5087" REL="nofollow">Times piece on the patch from J&J</A>? Six years they knew about it? I'm just feeling kind of skeptical now about things and think I need some more time to soak it all in.<BR/><BR/>Also, did you hear the part about the natural products line (<A HREF="http://www.johnsonsbaby.com/product.do?id=29" REL="nofollow">like this balm</A>) not doing so well? I have two things to say about that -- people who would buy this line are very adept at knowing what authentic natural ingredients are vs. fake natural ingredients. Most of the crunchy granola moms or moms with allergic kids that I know see Propylene Glycol or the mysterious "Fragrance" listed on the ingredients and go running for the hills. Also, just because it's natural doesn't mean I want it to smell like marigolds or rosemary. I do not equate plant smell with goodness. In fact, since allergies are my biggest concern when it comes to buying "natural" stuff, it can be quite the opposite since we have so many plant allergies.Stephanie https://www.blogger.com/profile/14842354579650231789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-51386963382737535502008-04-08T15:13:00.000-05:002008-04-08T15:13:00.000-05:00Excellent synopsis and I echo your sentiments! I r...Excellent synopsis and I echo your sentiments! I really would love to see the company taking an approach towards the green movement that we are trying to create. I am disappointed by the amount of big corporations who will not help in this and I would love to see J&J step up to the plate. I can't use scented products because I have an adverse reaction to them. I would support a new line like this for my family!Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10635304837180578317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-54613351177370790982008-04-08T09:05:00.000-05:002008-04-08T09:05:00.000-05:00It was great seeing you again and hanging out at C...It was great seeing you again and hanging out at Camp Baby! What a thoughtful write-up.<BR/><BR/>I think several attendees echoed your sentiments about fragnance-free products ( I love leftymom's "free salad bomb" comment) and concerns about certain chemicals. I don't think J&J can ignore this. Good job, Adrienne!<BR/><BR/>Also, good point about the scent branding. We used Dreft for a short time after baby #1, partlky due to free samples and partly just because it "smelled like baby."<BR/><BR/>One final note for those who didn't attend. The session you mention was th most blatant J&J commercial in the whole event. Most of the other sessions had a more of an educational value, at least for me.Kim Moldofskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01370371961001629766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-40189286364910676332008-04-06T20:28:00.000-05:002008-04-06T20:28:00.000-05:00Wow - I feel like I got my money's worth from your...Wow - I feel like I got my money's worth from your trip! Thank you for being so diligent - I imagine it is difficult to continue to ask touchy questions in the face of people who were nice to you. <BR/><BR/>It makes me glad that you stuck to your guns. They may have a staid line of reasoning that they come to the table with, but it doesn't mean that they won't go back, consider what you said, and ultimately change their mind. <BR/><BR/>Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-79268638099817823562008-04-06T20:23:00.000-05:002008-04-06T20:23:00.000-05:00Thank you for relaying your experience. I certain...Thank you for relaying your experience. I certainly wish that they would listen about fragrance free products. So many people would like that line.<BR/><BR/>Personally, we hated Desitin. Thank goodness we found "Diaper Goop" when Ladybug was born. It's from a small local company in our area and that's what we used!Christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307433013923470467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-40644482579733732352008-04-06T17:33:00.000-05:002008-04-06T17:33:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for your detailed report. I miss J&...Thanks so much for your detailed report. <BR/><BR/>I miss J&J products, as they were part of my own childhood, but because of health concerns, I just won't go there.<BR/><BR/>"Trust us" just doesn't cut it anymore, when it comes to the health of my own child, even when I fully believe that the company does mean well, like J&J. <BR/><BR/>A "natural" line would be very helpful, from my point of view, but until and unless they produce one, I'll be getting our family's products elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-47726979075788535692008-04-06T16:22:00.000-05:002008-04-06T16:22:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for the writeup about your experien...Thanks so much for the writeup about your experience about Johnson & Johnson. <BR/><BR/>I considered going to Camp Baby, but decided not to because it's not related to what I blog about (travel with children) and because I have always kept it simple when it comes to baby products (very few products, and almost exclusively fragrance free). <BR/><BR/>I love that you took the time and energy to talk with J&J about what they are doing and to share their response and your experience. <BR/><BR/>Having worked at a big company, I can understand how easy it is to absorb the corporate mindset, and I am sure that the scientists at J&J feel that they're doing the right thing by their customers.<BR/><BR/>It feels like they've gotten out of tough, however, with what is happening in the outside world. Granted, I live in Seattle where we subsist on granola and foraged berries ;) but when I look around at my friends with young children, we're all moving more towards natural products with short, easy to understand ingredient lists. It's so difficult to navigate the research about what chemicals are safe, and there's virtually no data about safe levels, and it can feel scary to look at a long and unfamiliar ingredient list and try to figure out which ingredients, at which levels are ok for your young children. <BR/><BR/>Debbie<BR/>http://www.deliciousbaby.comDebbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302885077195201318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-56694709707844705032008-04-06T16:15:00.000-05:002008-04-06T16:15:00.000-05:00Ditto thanks on bringing these concerns to J & J. ...Ditto thanks on bringing these concerns to J & J. <BR/><BR/>We, too, are a family that avoids skin- & haircare products with heavy fragrances due to allergies, sensitive skin, and general sensitivity to strong odors. One of my biggest pet peeves in this arena is that almost all hair/skincare products marketed for children (at least the grocery store & drugstore brands) have very overwhelmingly sweet & fruity scents akin to candy.<BR/><BR/>Recently, now that my son's curly hair is long enough to become seriously tangled, I had a terrible time trying to find a gentle detangler that didn't smell like a fruit salad bomb detonated on my child's head. Don't the product developers at these companies know that bees and other stinging insects are attracted by these fruity scents??? I finally was able to find a bottle of the old fashioned J & J "No Tears" detangler with a very light non-fruity scent, but the bottle was in the discount bin as a discontinued product, so when this runs out, I'll have to find something else.<BR/><BR/>For baby lotion, we use Cetaphil unscented cream and for baby shampoo, we like Burt's Bees and Aveeno, both with a very light non-fruity scent.LeftyMamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11529519277413640202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-52203329990120472102008-04-06T12:34:00.000-05:002008-04-06T12:34:00.000-05:00Thank you so much for bringing up these concerns w...Thank you so much for bringing up these concerns with J&J. They might bring back some of my business if they listened to you and the other moms looking for affordable products without suspect chemicals/fragrances. Read your entire summary with much interest.JessTrevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000531822628182708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32686050.post-35766285412884495042008-04-06T12:12:00.000-05:002008-04-06T12:12:00.000-05:00Thank you for writing such a detailed post about y...Thank you for writing such a detailed post about your experience with Johnson & Johnson at "Camp Baby." It was very informative and helped me a great deal. Thanks!Katie Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11055493520943016827noreply@blogger.com